15th Dialogue
ENLIGHTENMENT AND LIBERATION
Before I go down to the world bringing Your messages, although you have told me before, tell me once more in a language that is easy to grasp, about the forces that hold the instinctual life in motion. What is the meaning behind this motion and what drives man to choose and act in the arena of life full of struggle and conquest? People may ask what is the right and the wrong path? When they will seek guidance to move towards the enlightened way to whom I should direct them to go? When they will wish to know the way to escape from the suffering world, which advice should I give?
God: Know that you are God-man and you have appeared as a person in the suffering world to make man understand the enlightened way. The enlightened path goes through the world of man and God united in life and death. Your are both worldly and Divine and the Divine is working through you to make man understand the down-fallen world’s motion and matter-spirit-bound world’s fate. Your work carries the force of the Divine world and it is the meaning of the world. You are bound to Me but at the same time your worldly manifestation is moving in the worldly state according to the matter-spirit-bound destiny. This worldly manifestation is making life and death possible as the motion of the matter-spirit- bound world. You are making yourself moving by the force that emanates from Me. By the motion of the matter-spirit-bound world your worldly state is moving towards Me. Your matter-spirit-bound manifestation is working for the matter-bound spirit’s liberation from the mechanized movements of the world. You are moving in order to move-not. You are working in order to work not. You are sound and light while you are moving outside the boundaries of perceptions that create sound and light. You are working as the movement of Man-God but you are not Man, but God. Your will is not what man will or will-not. Your will is making the world move and move-not. Your work is generated by the force of the willing, but not-willing is the motive of the willing to work. Your work is the motive force moving the world, but your motive is not- to-work. Your world was, is and will be bound to matter-spirit and its motion, but your will is not bound to the motion of the world. God is working as Man and man must work for God. Your manifestation is the motive force and the matter-spirit is working to make My Will manifest. Work and remain engaged in the world as Man and move as the force that is seeking to free itself from the matter-spirit bound estrangement and the force of life and death. Work for the matter-bound world’s liberation.
Has the world sprung from You in the arena of the will and matter-spirit bound destiny where man must will in order to free oneself from the will, work in order to liberate oneself from the destiny- bound matter and spirit must move , choose and act in order to liberate oneself from the motion of the world? How shall I understand this contradiction? How shall I explain to the women and the men about these incompatible and opposite concepts as one, that is hard to understand?
God: Working does not issue from a force that is generated from the void. Working is the willing of the matter-spirit-bound world’s fate. Know that by working the will works in fulfilling the fate of the matter-spirit-bound man and woman’s life. Working issues forth from the force of the matter-bound-spirit’s working that make man and woman destined to follow estranged paths. Willing to liberate oneself from this path is willing to move in the arena of Man-God. Willing is the motion of the matter-spirit as destined by the forces of death. Escaping this willing is the willing not to follow man’s and woman’s destined fate. Working is the fallen-world’s matter-bound motion and working to free oneself from this matter-bound world is the will of Man-God. Man’s will creates force that makes man estranged in the world of the matter-spirit-bound fate. Willing to act by using the will of man is willing to move as the matter-spirit-bound force of destiny. Will is not-willing when the will supposes Man-God as the will behind all acts. Man-God is not willing because His Will is not fate-bound. How do you move and how to make man move according to the will that moves and moves-not is a miracle that can not be explained. How do you work and work-not, how do you make and make-not, how the world is and is-not in your willing that wills-not, is something that you will not be able to explain.
If man’s and woman’s willing are bound to the matter-spirit-bound destiny how shall man understand the meaning of choice and free-will? In willing and choosing does one bind oneself to the destiny or can man free oneself from the hands of fate?
God: Fate is moving through the will that is moving the matter-spirit-bound world. Force of the willing is the force of the destiny, that makes man and woman will the way they choose. The destiny is the worldly manifestation of the will that is moving to make the world matter-bound. Knowing the will, that moves and makes man bound to the matter-spirit-world and is making man and woman work against the Will that is above the fateful world’s motion, make man and woman work for the Will of God. God-man carries the will of man , who is moving to God. Knowing the working of God-Man , who wills and wills-not, ask the women and men to move as you instruct. Knowing the worldly and the Divine, as man and God, will and act, will-not and act-not.
What is the meaning behind this motion of the fateful-world and the motion of God-man and God? How shall man understand the meanings of his or her acts? How to choose? What is the right path?
God: Know yourself as Man-God and will and will-not. Knowing your worldly and Divine nature move to the world and make man and woman of the world understand the meaning of your manifestation as Man-God. Your working is the meaning of the world. By following your worldly and Divine movement through willing and not-willing, man and woman will realize the Divine meaning behind the creation. Knowing yourself as God-Man, make the worldly man and woman move in the fateful path as the matter-spirit-bound creation. Knowing the worldly and the Divine united in Man-God, make man and woman of the world will and will-not. Son! God has sent you to the world to make woman and man realize the mystery that moves and moves-not. Soul of Man-God is moving in the world as the Saviour of woman and man bound to the fateful destiny-bound matter-spirit world. Knowing the will that wills-not, make man and woman serve the Will of God by moving in the path illumined by Man-God.
What is Your Will? Why things exist as they are? Why destiny? Why fate? Why matter? Why spirit? Why do You Yourself exist? What is the goal? Is there any ultimate end? Is there any ultimate answer why the will impregnates all and all are bound in the destiny of the matter-spirit-bound fate? Why man must liberate oneself from a state in which he or she is thrown, and that he or she has not himself or herself chosen, and for which he or she himself or herself can not be held responsible ? Why have You created me while You have created the world that wills and falls in the matter-bound state and seeks its annihilation by its own will and choice? Tell me is it a game? Only a tragic play ?
God: Born of matter and spirit your form is the world. Bear in mind that your form is the worldly manifestation of God. Searching behind the form you enact the will to move beyond the domain of the form. Son! searching your own nature in the formless world you create yourself in form. Your formless existence is behind the worldly matter-spirit-world’s force that creates the world in form.
Father! give me answers to the queries I have made.
God: Son! The world is the movement of you and Me in union as the worldly and the Divine. The worldly aspect is form-bound while the Divine is beyond form. Without the existence of the matter-spirit-bound will the matter will not come into existence and there will be no existence in form. Son! the world is formless and also with form. God is moving in the world as the formless force behind all forms. God has willed the existence because existence is the will that has made God emanent in the world. I exist without any form. Then to the world I exist-not. In existence I am non-existent; in non-existence I am existing as the formless motion of the Will that is God. Making the forms in the world I have formed a matter-spirit-bound world where matter and spirit are destiny bound. Without the creation I am “non-existent” and formless. To reveal me as emanent in the world the world has to be created in forms. By creating the forms I have moved away as the force of the Divine that acts and works as the Will of God. By willing to create the world I have worked against the formless world and separated Myself from the realm of God. Doubt not that I am worldly and the Divine manifest in the world as Man-God. Know yourself as Me and see yourself in the mirror of the universe. Knowing the will that forms the world and the forms that create the forces that seek to go beyond the forms see yourself as an inseparable duality in which your existence is bound. By moving I act to see Myself in the world as emanent and in form. By remaining tranquil I see My formless state in the void. There is no meaning beyond what is. God exists as emanent and matter-spirit-bound, and transcendent as formless and the void. By existing I make the world meaningful as God’s arena of movement and fate and worldly manifestation of the movement of God as man. Assume no other purpose but the world is Me, and I am behind all. Doubt not what is, and what can not be non-existent as long as the boundary of the matter-spirit world is not annihilated by the motion of the Will of God. God works to bring the existent beings to the realization of the oneness with God. God moves and therefore the world is and the world is therefore God is moving to make man go beyond. Know the world that is-not. Son! Know yourself as Me and know that the world moves according to what I will through You. Son! I am the whole; I am inseparable from all. It is Me who is and all others are my parts. See Me as emanent in the creation in forms. Return to me and emanate in form from Me. How shall I create Me without Me, and for someone else when everything are Me? Man must know that you are world’s Saviour and they are your parts. You should tell them about your worldly and Divine nature and ask them to follow your enlightened path.
If you are behind all and everything are your parts what makes man fall in the darkness of the mind and choose the paths that are contrary to Your Will that wishes to make man realize the oneness of man and God, and the unity of all in form and no-form?
God: Your will works as the fate-bound world’s will because this is the way the existence of forms ca be sustained. Although form is the world, the formless world must move to accretion that the form carries the will to become one with what is beyond. The form seeks in the formless world the movement of the will that will bring order in the world, that is being constantly disrupted by the will to free the forms from the matter-bound state. Thus the worldly will seeks to choose the fate by seeking to organize itself around orderly forms. By doing so the destiny moves. God’s Will is not to bring an end to this destiny-bound world falling into the matter-spirit state but to make the will work against the matter-spirit-bound will that wills to destroy the order of the fate and the motion of the world that moves in and outside the temporal and the non-temporal domains.
If all are your parts how does this conflict of the will, that contradicts, arise?
God: Son! God has no will and therefore there is no conflict of Will of God with any other will. Willing is the force that forms and by forming the will it becomes separate from God and moves in the destiny-bound path. When the destiny-bound movement works against the will that wills to move to God, the contradictions move and the conflicts appear. So will is not the Will of God, but will that impregnates the creation that is emanent from God. The emanent is not what is-not. And what is-not, is what I am. I am your Father. Your existence is the motion of God-Man, when willing and no-willing appear. Son! willing is a mode to act and by acting one may separate oneself from God. God-Man is the path to follow in the world.
Are you separate from the world of will and contradictions, or are you one with it?
God: Assume yourself as a part of the world. But not Me. Your world is Man and God. But when you are Me you are not Man but God. Both as man and God you are one with the world as well as separate. Doubt not the Words of God. Both as Me and the worldly man your form and formless existence are world and will. Son! assume your work and make man move in the path as You and Me. God is. So You are. Move as I instruct.
