05th Dialogue
MEANING BEHIND SUFFERING
I have found myself living in storms of events that bring anxieties, fears, sufferings and pain. In these whirlwinds , that constitute human life, man is dragged by chains of actions over which they seem to have no power to resist. Love, affections, desires to live and desires to help others to live drive the events of life that give no rest from the drudgery of toil. O Father of Heaven! I myself have been caught in these tumults of life and dragged to the whirling eddies that human life cannot avoid without relinquishing ties with life. I wonder about the path that will show man the way to tranquillity without being detached from life and indifferent to the sufferings of the world. As You are the Great Love, tell me what is the meaning of this suffering world? How does Your Love manifest in this suffering and how shall man choose to act and find the ways that will fulfil the purpose and meaning for which You have them made?
God: When you find yourself amidst suffering life , although you are not a man, your will is made of the human will because your body is a matter-spirit bound body that is worldly and does not belong to the Divine. However, being in the world, your will works and seeks the Divine realm from which you have issued forth. Your will as a man makes you move towards the “man”, who is not worldly but Divine. Your world is the world of Man-God who is not a man and not Me but a man who is Me. When you will the Work of Me, your will is my will at the matter-bound state, but when you will to make a pact with the will of man your will is not Me. At that stage your will is the work of the matter-bound mind, that is worldly will of the working man, who are making cyclic motions of birth and rebirth so that man’s destiny may be fulfilled.
Tell me about this destiny and its meaning.
God: Your world is not a world of man but of Man-God. The world of man is a world of matter-spirit , where every existence is bound. No worldly being is able to free itself from this matter-spirit-bound world. Your will is thus tied to this worldly state. But your will is not man’s will and therefore you are free from the cycle of death and birth. Your will is the Work of God as well as the work of “man” – you are Man-God. Your will is working against the man’s fate and destiny. But working against man’s destiny is working against the Will of the Divine. Your will is working against the worldly man’s suffering state. But suffering is man’s destiny because man is nothing but a state where matter-bound spirit is willing and seeking to move towards Me. Both in suffering and worldly man’s search and movement towards Me, through matter-spirit-bound world, man is nothing but fulfilling the worldly meaning of life.
I have not yet been able to grasp your answer about the meaning of life and the purpose for which man is tied to the cycle of birth and rebirth. O Father of Heaven! tell me is there any way of salvation for man from this wheel of suffering ? Is there any path along which man may go in order to escape this destiny in which every human life is enchained?
God: Man is working to fulfil the meaning for which man is created. It is the meaning of the world. Man’s suffering is the meaning of the world because through suffering of life man seeks his or her destined path towards the realm from which man’s movement towards the Divine starts. Your worldly state is man’s matter-bound state where you are the worldly work of matter-spirit as well as man’s Divine state. By seeking to move towards the state in which your existence is one with God, man is moving towards Me by the way you are working for Me. Your work is not a work of man but the Work of God.
Is suffering the only way to know the path that leads to God?
God: Suffering does not become suffering once man grasps the meaning for which life is created to move in the realm of the matter-mind world. As long as man remains blind and is unable to see the many-fold world of the matter-spirit world bound to destiny, the Divine makes man suffer the way you describe. Suffering is an illusion of the mind, that derives meaning out of the acts of life and the happenings of the world. Know that man is bound to worldly fate and destiny and man’s existence has a meaning.
Tell me how Your Love manifests through the happenings of the world, that appear as suffering to man, who are not able to understand the meaning and purpose of existence beyond the boundaries of the needs of the sense-bound world.
God: Your worldly state is My worldly incarnation. Both as a man and God I am existing with you as a man and God. By appearing as Man-God I realize My Love for mankind and make the worldly life meaningful.
Is Thy Love suffering? Is Thy Love a blind path of destiny? Is Thy Love simple resignation to fate? Tell me the way man may understand Your Love and find salvation in the suffering’s way.
God: When you ask these questions you are working for the will of man and your mind is willing to move in the path of desire and matter-mind way. When you ask your mind is making a matter-mind meaning of suffering and destiny in terms of the happening in the world. But know that your-mind is more than matter-mind and your-will is more than the will of man. Your love is a peace and a tranquillity that suffuse all creations with the Divine power. Your love is a power to create and regenerate the world as matter-bound existence. Your love is matter-mind and matter-matter-mind-mind-….ad infinitely deep source from which all existence have sprung. Your love is not the love that encounters meaning in the world but a meaning for which God-Man and God exist in the world. Man-God is the meaning of the world. Bear Man-God in your worldly state. As an incarnation of the Divine work for Me.
What brings the illusion of suffering ? What is the way to enlighten the human mind to see beyond the veil of illusion and see Thy Love manifest?
God: Man-God is the way of enlightenment. Through Him I am manifest as Love in the world. Bear in your body the existence of Man-God and make man realize the meaning of the incarnation of Me as a man, who is God.
Is God-Man the only way for the salvation of man?
God: Salvation is a worldly concept. Salvation is not a power to relieve man from the illusion’s way. Salvation has no worldly meaning because it can not be realized by a man born of flesh and blood. Salvation exists in the realm of Man-God. He is the meaning of the world and through Him man will move to the desired path and fulfil the meaning of life. I am not love that can salvage man from the desires of the world but by desiring and suffering man will realize the path of Man-God. Your love is not to free man from desire but to make man realize the freedom that exists in love and in loving man the way you realize My Love for all.
How do you want me to propagate this message to the world where the storms of events daily tear apart human life in sorrow and grief?
God: Your worldly movement is forming the Man-God’s meaning of the world. Your meaning is My meaning as Man-God. Propagate this message to the world.
