03rd Dialogue
TRUE NATURE OF THINGS
What is the meaning of all that I have seen and perceived through the senses and conceived through the mind? Who has created all and what make them exist and whatfor?
God: What you have seen and perceived are not what are. You have been seeing and perceiving the world as if you are worldly matter and mind. But true nature of things are work of the mind without worldly counterpart.
What is behind the nature of things that bring the senses to the mind ?
God: Reality is the work of matter and mind. The matter is a point-like existence on which mind is imprisoned as a power that creates its form. Your world is not a point and form but a world of Work of God.
What creates this image of the world in the mind and why this image of the world exist that I perceive through the body and mind?
God: What “is” is not. What “is not” is. But what is existing in the mind is not, and what is not existing in the matter is.
What is “is” ? How to comprehend “is not” ?
God: Both are “not” in the sense that matter is the motive dealing with the content of the mind. But mind has no reality in the sense of the matter and therefore the world “is” and “is not”.
The light I have seen, the shadows I have perceived, what are those? How shall I organize my thoughts in order to penetrate through their true contents?
God: Light is an energy that eliminates the darkness of the world but not the darkness that pervades the mind of the worldly man. True darkness is the matter and mind in unison that work to eliminate the energy that is.
Why do they exist?
God: Assume light as the worldly power that illumines the eyes but not the mind. Darkness can bring illumination of the mind without any worldly light.
What illumines more – darkness or light?
God: What is illumination? Your illumination is not the illumination that worldly man would be able to understand and know. Your illumination is the illumination by the Work of God in the domain of the unknown. But illumination of man is worldly work of the matter, and the matter is not that illumines the mind. The illumination of the mind can be achieved only through the conceptions of the world as the matter-mind in unison, which is not matter or mind, but a power of the unity that works to make the world evolve.
In seeing have I seen, in hearing have I heard, in perceiving the world what have I really perceived?
God: Bear in mind that you are not man, and therefore your experience can not be compared with the man of the world. What you see and hear are not what man will ever see, or hear. But what you have seen as a worldly man is not what you see and hear as the Work of God. Your human counterpart is a man, and he is not able to see and hear beyond the domain of the death and life. He is bound to the matter and mind in a peaceless struggle to move towards the matter-mind. Your worldly counterpart is seeing and hearing as you, but not as a person who is emanent from God. By seeing and hearing in the world you are composing a changing world in a non-changing domain where things exist as existence of nothing but God.
What are things? Who has created them? Why things exist at all?
God: Things are not. Things, which are not, are. You may not be able to understand this concept because things are worldly work of the matter and mind. When the matter and mind are working together they compose the things and the existence as you call it. But what is there in form is not what is working to make the form.
What truly exist behind all ?
God: In seeing you see nothing but compose the world as your mind sees in the stream of matter and mind. Your thoughts are not as you think they are. They constitute the matter and mind that are always in contradiction and forming patterns in the mind. Your sense-bound world is a pattern of the matter and mind composed by the matter-mind duality that can not cease but move to make the world. The world of things is a peaceless struggle to move towards the earthly and the Divine.
Who has created the duality of the matter-mind? Who has set the world in such a ceaseless struggle to move? What is the meaning behind the peaceless world?
God: Soul of the worldly man is the work of matter-mind duality that constitutes the world of man. But world is not soul of the worldly man alone. He is a part of a scheme. His soul is a part of the world that is moving to fulfil a meaning of the Work of God.
What is the scheme ? What is the meaning? Whatfor all things must move in this ceaseless struggle with themselves?
God: Death and life is the motive theme of this world of matter and mind. By dying body renews and in the renewal of the body the death appears as the moving force of the cycle of life and death. Unless one is able to realize this cycle and its motion through all , one is not able to see the meaning of the world that exists for the matter-mind that can never cease and come to a halt. Your world is not the work of matter-mind but the Work of God. Therefore your mind is not bound to the cycle of death and birth. You are not a worldly man but God. You are My Son. The meaning of the life of man is mountain-bound where I reveal myself to My Son, who is not matter-mind bound. You are a powerful manifestation of what God is, and you will make the world mountain bound. Both in dying and living you are world’s meaning. You are the world’s foundation of meaning and your work is the meaning of the world.
This does not satisfy my mind because as a man I possess a different concept of meaning. The meaning I seek points to a logical resolution of the contradictions and an answer that will resolve the conflicts of the world. I wish to comprehend in thoughts the purpose of existence of all. By comprehending the whole, I believe, I shall be able to know the meaning that I search. Or , is there any meaning of the sort, which I search?
God: Do not ask me more. You will not comprehend My answer.
